13-Apr-08
March 28-April 11, 2008: System Results
I decided toward the end of the week that posting the holding rationale of every Tom, Dick and Harry stock that I happen to purchase isn’t going to be a very fruitful endeavor. While I might eventually get to the top of the Commentary Ranking list, I’m fairly certain that the Covestor community wouldn’t give me high marks for being insightful. That’s because I’m purely a technical trader, couldn’t care less about general market direction, and use two very obscure algorithms to pick my stocks. As I told someone else in the Covestor community this past week, once an algorithm generates a signal, I don’t try to understand the why or wherefore but simply take the trade. It’s worked very well for me in the past and I don’t see any reason to change things in the future.
Certainly there are many technical traders who could write an entertaining rationale about their stock picks. These traders would be in the category of "chart readers" – those looking for patterns such as head and shoulders, price gaps, triangles and wedges, support/resistance, supply/demand, etc. Good chart readers have a lot to say about why they take a trade, and the ones who are at the same time good writers (such as our own Tim Sykes) can really hold your attention. But someone like me – who uses mechanical algorithms with software code that I do not wish to reveal to the general public – isn’t going to find much to write about.
In fact, trying to write an entertaining rationale is what got me in trouble this past week. I began to dig more deeply into companies after I’d bought their stock: earnings news, press releases, industry profiles, analyst estimates and the like. Then I blogged about them. Knowing these kinds of things, or rather dwelling on these things, is the absolute death to my kind of trading. The very success I’ve had is because I know NOTHING about the company – a trade is just a black box, not transparent and not alive. But last week I began to research too much and that led me to begin REACHING too much for a trade instead of holding my ground and requiring a trade to meet my standard or else; and worst of all, I began to listen into a few chat rooms to pick up clues for "good" trades. Because of that, I made a few trades that had nothing to do with my algorithms and I had my first drawdown at Covestor because of it.
From now on, no more blogging about individual picks. I’m going to write a weekly summary of my results from now on, maybe say something about one or two of the trades, and that’s all. If I have an inspiration to talk about something more general, I may occasionally blog mid-week.
That being said, I don’t think 9% gain in my portfolio since March 28 is too shabby. It’s a good start and I’m going to be looking this next week to "get back to the basics," stop reaching for trades and take what the market gives me. Thanks for reading!
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3 Comments on "March 28-April 11, 2008: Syst..."
Posted on 15-Apr-08 23:56 by bnbien
Before Covestor launched the Rationales feature, I actually made a case against doing so, because it invites incorporating ones own biases into a trade, which is one of the Behavioral Finance deadly sins, and in the process gives the impression that those biases are somehow relevant. From time to time, this has caused my trading to deteriorate. By the way, my current performance here doesn’t include my options trades. My chart doesn’t look like the top performers, but I’ve been in the black most of the time here, and am currently up 5.2% from when I joined.
My listing of the pieces that I do mention are just a snapshot at the moment that I enter a trade, but as I’ve mentioned elsewhere here, once I’m in a trade, I consider all prior conditions to be ancient history and therefore irrelevant. I enter a trade because the Voices (my system signals) tell me to, and exit for the same reason.
I make an effort never to read any story about a given company, but do occasionally slip, and that generally costs me! I do, however, read a great deal about trading concepts, and think this is the one area where a purely technical trader such as yourself has a lot to offer.
I came to this Covestor experience with an effort, in principle, to be a purely technical trader, or perhaps more strictly speaking, purely automatic, since I give a nod as a precondition to fundamentals, especially low value ratios, and secondarily, to growth criteria. But since those have already been sliced and diced by every website out there, I don’t really see the point in my own in depth analysis of any company’s fundamentals.
And I can understand any trader wanting to keep their own particular algorithms to themselves. I’m also keeping the details of my system to myself. But apart from the specific details of my program, I think there are some broad areas that are worth commenting on about trading in general. As you go along here, any ideas that you care to share would be of interest. Thanks!
Don
Posted on 22-Apr-08 06:23 by Don_Bartell
Thanks for writing. Little did I know last weekend when I wrote that comment that my “9% gain” since inception was about to become a 9% LOSS – in a matter of days! So I’m nursing my wounds, hiding from all rationales or commentary altogether (yes reneged on my promise to post even a weekly summary), and have gone back into the testing lab. Interesting that my paradigm over the last 4 years – (1) breakthrough discovery of another “Holy Grail” algorithm thru backtesting; (2) initial, exciting success; (3) nosedive, losing all profits and then some – played out to a T at Covester.com as well.
The good thing about Covestor is that when you lose, it means you’ve actually lost real cash in our own brokerage account. I don’t mean it’s good that you lost money, but it’s good that the real losses keep you honest. At Collective2, where you can actually get subscribers who pay for your signals, you can be as reckless as you want because the company isn’t verifying the vendor’s equity. Winning is only on paper, and so is losing. But for the subscribers, everything is very, very real.
My equity line is going to look quite flat for a period of time while I test new theories. I’m thinking a lot about that paradigm I sketched out above, how THAT has been the only consistent thing about my trading. Well, perhaps I can stand the paradigm on its head? It’s kind of a contrarian strategy, but not contrarian as the trading business defines it. I’m experimenting with being contrarian about my own inclinations. About my own backtested Holy Grails. Whenever I come up with my group of trades based upon a favorite algorithm, I’ll just stand everything on its head and do the complete opposite. Maybe this will lead to the same results, maybe not. Maybe it’ll counteract some impulses that enter into my decisions a split second before I put the trades to bed. It’s the one thing I haven’t experimented with. For now, I’m trying things out in my Thinkorswim paper account.
You still believe in the technical approach and write eloquently about it. I also know that that is the only way for me. I don’t have the time or level of trust to do the research and make discretionary calls. Someone like Retire48 whom I’m tracking is an absolutely gifted stock picker – when I see his consistent results, I know that it’s possible to be that kind of trader. But the closest I’ll ever get to Retire48’s methodology is to become his subscriber someday, if that’s what it takes to make money in this game.
Thanks again for your thoughts and I’ll be watching your progress.
- Mark
Posted on 22-Apr-08 09:16 by marktheshark
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